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A continuation of information on mercury, vaccinations, etc.

Transcript for August 7


David Kirby, author, "Evidence of Harm: Mercury in Vaccines and the Autism Epidemic"; Dr. Harvey Fineberg, president, The Institute of Medicine


NBC News

Updated: 10:46 a.m. ET Aug. 16, 2005



Coming next, autism: what we know and what we don't know. Dr. Harvey Fineberg of the Institute of Medicine and David Kirby, author of "Evidence of Harm: Mercury in Vaccines and the Autism Epidemic: A Medical Controversy," next, right here on MEET THE PRESS.




MR. RUSSERT: The controversy over childhood vaccines and autism, after this brief station break.




MR. RUSSERT: And we are back.


Dr. Fineberg, Mr. Kirby, welcome both.


In your book, Mr. Kirby, you raise early on two questions. "Why did the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) allow mercury exposures from childhood vaccines to more than double between 1988 and 1992 without bothering to calculate cumulative totals and their potential risks?" And "Why ... was there a corresponding spike in reported cases of autism spectrum disorders? Why did autism grow from a relatively rare incidence of 1 in every 10,000 births in the 1980s to 1 in 500 in the late 1990s? Why did it continue to increase 1 in 250 in 2000 and then 1 in 166 today?" Have you answered those questions?


MR. DAVID KIRBY: No, nobody's answered those questions. And we have to answer those questions as soon as possible. We need to solve this mystery. We need to get this controversy behind us so we can go on to find ways to help these kids. Mercury is toxic. It's a known neurotoxin. If it gets into the brain, it could stay there virtually forever. Children born in the '90s received mercury far in excess of federal safety limits. That's indisputable. And yet we're looking at a neurotoxin. And yet most of the evidence developed by the public health sector has been looking at the epidemiology. And we really need to look at what this mercury is doing inside the bodies and brains of these children if we're going to solve this mystery one way or the other.


MR. RUSSERT: Dr. Fineberg, in your 2004 report from the Institute of Medicine, you said this: "While some information suggests that autism rates may be rising, it is not clear whether the observed increase is real or due to factors such as heightened awareness of the disorder or the use of a broader diagnostic definition. ..."


Do you think there's an epidemic of autism or do you think it's simply a change in defining it?


DR. HARVEY FINEBERG: There's definitely a huge number of cases diagnosed with autism, Tim. What is clear is that number recognized has increased dramatically. It's also clear that the definition was broadened markedly in the 1980s and 1990s, and there were increased incentives to recognize children from increased awareness and availability of services. No one knows with certainty what part of the increase is genuine, a genuine increase in numbers, and what part is from increased recognition of people who were already there but not previously recognized. Remember we're talking about a spectrum of diagnoses here, autism spectrum diseases, which range in severity from relatively mild to relatively severe.


MR. RUSSERT: For a layman, in a few words, how would you explain autism?


DR. FINEBERG: Autism is a severe neurodevelopmental disorder that is characterized by social withdrawal, by repetitive behaviors and by some kind of focal attention in its classic form. Basically, it's an inability to relate to others.


MR. RUSSERT: Let me go back and review two of the studies that the Institute of Medicine did because this has helped feed much of this controversy and discussion. Back in 2001, the headline on your press release was "Link Between Neurodevelopmental Disorders And Thimerosal Remains Unclear. Current scientific evidence neither proves nor disproves a link between the mercury-containing preservative thimerosal and neurodevelopmental disorders in children, says a new report from the Institute of Medicine... While very few vaccines given to children in the United States today still contain thimerosal, prudence dictates that precautionary measures be taken to decrease thimerosal exposure even further. ... It is medically plausible that some children's risk of a neurodevelopmental disorder could rise in part through increased mercury exposure from thimerosal-containing vaccines."


Thimerosal being a preservative that is put into the vaccine. Then about three years later in May of 2004, the Institute of Medicine issued this headline: "MMR Vaccine And Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines Are Not Associated With Autism, IOM Report Says. Based on a thorough review of clinical and epidemiological studies"--I'll always destroy that word--"neither the mercury-based vaccine preservative thimerosal nor the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine are associated with autism, says a new report from the Institute of Medicine..."


What changed in those three years?


DR. FINEBERG: When you're dealing with a problem as complex as autism, Tim, you have to look at it from many different points of view and assemble evidence from many different vantage points. Biological evidence in humans and in animals, toxicologic evidence, how does the body deal with toxins, and evidence looking at the actual experience in populations. When the 2001 report was written, there was a lot of suggestive information about the toxic properties of mercury and the problem of autism incompletely understood. By 2004, the main change was that there were completed additional studies that were actually looking in the population at the relationship of receipt of vaccines containing thimerosal and the development of autism.


These studies were carried out in the United States, in Great Britain, in Denmark and Sweden. These studies covered hundreds of thousands of individuals, children, in these populations. They compared systematically in different ways whether you received vaccine with no thimerosal, with some thimerosal, with more thimerosal, and they looked at the relationship of those experiences with the development of autism. Uniformly, the best of those studies all show no association between receiving vaccine of different amounts with thimerosal or without and the development of autism. It was the absence of that association which was the main reason for reaching the conclusion that the evidence points to no association between vaccines and autism.


MR. RUSSERT: Mr. Kirby?


MR. KIRBY: Well, I think those five epidemiological studies range from severely flawed to seriously questionable. And I also think that you cannot rely solely on epidemiology to prove or disprove causation. In fact, I have right here--this is from the federal court system, but they ruled that epidemiology is not acceptable to prove there is no causal link between an adverse event and a pharmaceutical.


MR. RUSSERT: Explain that in layman's language.


MR. KIRBY: Well, it means that you really, like the doctor said, need to look at the kids as well as look at the large population studies. You need to look at the biology, the toxicology; you need to look at the cellular level. You need to look at immunology, and I would say that what the IOM did last year--I was at that meeting on February 9. Virtually half of the evidence against the theory, that was presented against the theory was epidemiological--I have the same problem as you. The other half supporting the theory was largely biological. And yet the committee gave a preponderance of evidence or emphasis to the epidemiological evidence and rather, I would say, gave short shrift to the biological evidence.


Dr. Fineberg has mentioned that there are 215 references in the report. I counted them up. By my count, it's roughly a 2:1 ratio, about 115 references for epidemiology, 60 references for biology, and of those, only seven were toxicological reports. Now, we're talking about a known neurotoxin, and there were no toxicologists on the committee, either. So I think even Dr. McCormick, the chairwoman of the committee, told me that there was definitely an emphasis on the epidemiology over the biological evidence.


MR. RUSSERT: When we announced this program, as you might expect, we heard from both sides who are very emotional and passionate about this. The National Autism Association, Dr. Fineberg, wrote a letter to us including this: "The five studies the Institute of Medicine based its conclusion upon are fatally flawed, have never been replicated and have ties to the CDC"--Center for Disease Control-- "(or foreign equivalent mandating vaccines in other countries) and/or the pharmaceutical industry. However, the Institute of Medicine chose to completely ignore the biological and clinical data supporting the link between thimerosal exposure and injuries to children conducted by independent appropriately- credentialed researchers."


DR. FINEBERG: Tim, the Institute of Medicine panel that came together represented a spectrum of experts who were asked to look at all of the evidence, and they did. They assessed the evidence that bears on the question. Some of it is biological, as I mentioned; some of it has to depend on what you actually find when you go out and look in the population. Is there or is there not an association? Keep in mind that there are many neurotoxins in the world. Dozens of natural and industrial substances have neurotoxic properties. When you're trying to assess a specific association, there are biological studies that are relevant, and there are epidemiological studies that are relevant. All of these studies are not equally valid. Some have more deficiencies and limitations than others.


The committee went through very carefully and assessed each of those studies representing its strengths and weaknesses. All of this is laid out in its report, which is available for download to anyone who wants it from the IOM Web site, And anyone can read for themselves how the committee evaluated critically and carefully all of this evidence.


When the letter you read states that these five studies were not replicated, I can't help but think that each one of them has been replicated four times. We have now a growing body of evidence, while imperfect, altogether convincing and all reaching the same conclusion, even though they vary in their methods and in their approaches. And that conclusion was no association between the receipt of vaccines containing thimerosal and the development of autism.


MR. RUSSERT: Why was thimerosal then taken out of the vaccination?


DR. FINEBERG: There's no question that mercury is a neurotoxin. And if there were ways, which there are, to protect vaccines without using mercury-containing substances, it was prudent to remove it, not because there was evidence that it caused autism or even definitive evidence that the amounts in those vaccines caused any neuro problems, but because it was an added measure of precaution that was sensible and correct. And I might add that the latest vaccines that contained any thimerosal as a preservative, with the exception of some flu vaccines, were completed in 2001 and outdated in 2003. So anyone watching this program, any parent can be confident that when they take their child to the pediatrician to be immunized this year, they will receive vaccines without thimerosal as a preservative.


MR. RUSSERT: But prior to this year, there may be some concern?


DR. FINEBERG: Prior to 2003, there were some that still had thimerosal, but the concern is not reaching the level of evidence related to the development of autism. The concern is a more general concern about mercury as a potential neurotoxin.


MR. RUSSERT: Mr. Kirby?


MR. KIRBY: Well, if I could get back to the IOM report, that meeting was held 14--or the report was actually issued 14 months ago. This story is moving very, very fast. In those last 14 months, there has been an equally growing body of evidence, again on the biological side, that would suggest that, in a small subset of children with a certain genetic predisposition, they are unable to properly process the mercury that they were exposed to. And, by the way, the rates of exposure were quite high in the 1990s. At two months of age, children got three shots for a total of 62.5 micrograms of mercury. For their body weight, that's 125 times over the EPA level. For me to reach that level, that would be about 1,125 micrograms.


We know that certain children with autism, again, seem to have higher levels of mercury accumulating in their body. We know that when we give mercury to infant primates, the--there's two types of organic mercury: ethylmercury in vaccines, methylmercury in fish. What they found was that the ethylmercury, once it got into the brain, it converted to inorganic mercury very, very quickly. Inorganic mercury basically gets trapped in the brain, and there's evidence to suggest that, in an infant brain, in the first six months to a year when the brain is still growing, when inorganic mercury gets trapped in that brain, you're going to have this hyper neuroinflammation, or the rapid brain growth that we see in autistic children.


These are the types of things that I think need to be researched further. Yes, we need to look at the epidemiology. There's a whole lot of new biology. This has all been published. None of the biology was published at the time of the IOM hearing. It has since been published, and I actually wonder if the IOM would consider reconvening a new committee or a new hearing to consider the evidence that's come out in the year and a half since the last report.


MR. RUSSERT: Would you?


DR. FINEBERG: Tim, Mr. Kirby's description about the certitude of this evidence, I think, exceeds the actual balance of evidence that is produced when you look at the totality. It's true that mercury is handled differently in the body when it's in the form of so-called ethylmercury, which is in vaccines, and methylmercury, which was actually the form which was--on which the standards of exposure were based. That's the type found in fish, as has been mentioned. But when you look back at the studies of actual poisonings of children with large amounts of methylmercury and ethylmercury, most toxicologists believe that the ethyl form of the mercury is less toxic than the methyl form--less toxic to the nervous system. And that's based on many experiences with poisoning by these different forms of mercury.


MR. RUSSERT: Many parents have written us over the last couple of days saying that they have put their child in the process of chelation, which removes the mercury poisoning from the system, and they say they've seen vast improvement. Wouldn't that suggest that there may be some relationship between the mercury from thimerosal and the removal from the child?


DR. FINEBERG: Tim, autism is a complicated illness, and children with a variety of treatments and non-treatments show improvement over time, which is all to the good. But when you have a single story and a repeated story of an experience that a parent has with a treatment like chelation, you have to keep in mind that the history of medicine is strewn with discarded treatments that people at one time believed in very, very strongly. When you have one case after another, it's one anecdote after another, and the plural of anecdote in scientific terms is not evidence. The only way to know whether a treatment works or does not work compared to other things is to do the clinical trial, comparing those who are given the treatment in a systematic and balanced way with those who are not.


MR. RUSSERT: Mr. Kirby, in your book, you talk about a conference on June 7 to 8 in 2000 in Simpsonwood, Georgia. We've gotten many e-mails and letters about a government conspiracy, that the CDC and the FDA and the Institute of Medicine and everyone has gotten together and really tried to deny information to the parents of children with autism. Do you believe that?


MR. KIRBY: Well, I think the word "conspiracy" and "cover-up," those are very loaded words and I never use them. I do think there has been a lack of transparency and I would think Dr. Fineberg would probably agree with that statement. In this entire process...


MR. RUSSERT: Do you agree with that?


DR. FINEBERG: I don't agree that the lack of transparency has, had had any bearing on conclusions, and I'm not sure what we mean by a lack of transparency.


MR. RUSSERT: Right now many parents are seeking information from studies from the CDC through the Freedom of Information Act, and they're being told that the HMOs now have that information and they cannot share it because of privacy. And the parents are saying that's outrageous. It could easily be obtained by the CDC and disburse that science, that data so people can look at it and make their own judgments. Should the CDC at least do that?


DR. FINEBERG: In fact, Tim, the Institute of Medicine looked separately in a different study at this system that was in place and did urge the CDC to make these records more available to qualified researchers. But that is not the same as a lack of transparency in the studies or in the reports. All anyone has to do in the case of the Institute of Medicine report is to read the report. All of the logic is laid out, all of the weighing of considerations. Not everyone may agree with each assessment, but they have all the relevant evidence right before them.


MR. RUSSERT: Mr. Kirby, you have said, "I am totally willing to accept there are other factors at play. It may turn out not to be thimerosal at all." What do you think should be done?


MR. KIRBY: Well, I think, first of all, we need clinical trials for treatments. We need to try to help these children as best we can. There is a clinical trial of chelation therapy under way right now at the University of Arizona [editor's note: should be Arizona State University]. Dr. Fineberg said we need these trials. I wish the government was funding them. We need to listen to these parents as well. And I think that they've gotten a lot of dismissal from the scientific community. Parents were telling scientists that their children were born normally and then regressed. A lot of people dismissed that and said that couldn't be the case. We now know from a brand- new study from the University of Washington using videotapes of one-year birthday and two-year birthday that is indeed the case. If the parents were right about regression, maybe they're right about chelation.


Just getting back to transparency for one second if I could and this whole safety data base that we're trying to get access to from the report that Dr. Fineberg cited, it says right here, "The lack of transparency of some of the processes also affects the trust relationship between the NIP, the National Immunization Program, and the general public." The lack of trust and the lack of transparency is what's threatening the vaccine program, not talk about mercury. So the doctor's own committee said that there was a lack of transparency again inside this process of analyzing this data that was presented at that conference in Georgia.


MR. RUSSERT: Many of the National Autism Association and other groups, Doctor, point to Task Order 74. This is the arrangement between the CDC and the Institute of Medicine, a one-page memo which helps define the study and why it won't be released. Is there a reason?


DR. FINEBERG: I don't know what exactly that's referring to, Tim, but when the Centers for Disease Control contracts with the Institute of Medicine to undertake a study, they do pay the actual costs of the study. But keep in mind that the panel of experts that are assembled by the Institute of Medicine receive no compensation whatsoever for their volunteer service. And when a government agency conveys money to the Institute of Medicine, it's not the agency's money. It's the American people's money. And our obligation is to do the best we can to assess the evidence on behalf of the American public.


MR. RUSSERT: Since thimerosal is now out of the vaccine, latest as of '03, we will know in a few years whether or not there is a connection...


MR. KIRBY: Yes. That's correct.


MR. RUSSERT: ...definitively by the number of cases?


MR. KIRBY: I think so, but again we need to look at the biology, but the epidemiology is very important. If the case rates start to drop in the next couple years, I think that will be hugely significant. If I could also just get back to this commission by the CDC of the report, I'd like to do that as well.


MR. RUSSERT: Real fast.


MR. KIRBY: Well, there's evidence that there was pressure put on the committee by the CDC, and we have internal transcripts. I think that's what you were referring to. There are transcripts of private meetings. Some of them were leaked. They're not obtainable through the Freedom of Information Act. Many people are trying to get copies of the other transcripts, and I do hope that the IOM will make those available in the name of transparency in this.


MR. RUSSERT: Was there pressure?


DR. FINEBERG: Absolutely not, Tim. In fact, the whole reason why the Institute of Medicine, the National Academy of Sciences, the National Research Council exists is to be an independent voice outside of government to work on behalf of the needs of the American people. That's what we do. Agencies do not always hear from us what they want to hear. Sometimes the evidence does not point in a direction that is welcome. Stem cell guidelines or information about climate change or, for example, the ways to fix the Hubble Telescope which came out of the national academies--all of these are studies undertaken on behalf of the American public and the same was true for our assessment of vaccine safety.


MR. RUSSERT: You're absolutely convinced there's no connection between thimerosal and autism?


DR. FINEBERG: I'm convinced that the best evidence all points to the lack of an association. These studies can never prove to the point of absolute certainty an absence of an association. But I would say this, other avenues of research looking at other possible causes today are much more promising ways to spend our precious resources.


MR. RUSSERT: And our viewers should know that there is no thimerosal now in vaccinations, other than flu vaccinations, and so it's safe for your children to do --(Unintelligble).


DR. FINEBERG: And even some flu vaccines for children are now available without thimerosal, as well.


MR. RUSSERT: You believe there is a possibility of a connection?


MR. KIRBY: Absolutely. And I think one day we'll find out that there might have been--this has contributed to some of the cases in autism in this country.


MR. RUSSERT: Thank you for a very civil discussion.





Autism: a Novel Form of Mercury Poisoning

S. Bernard, B.A., A. Enayati, M.S.M.E., L. Redwood, M.S.N., H. Roger, B.A., T. Binstock, Sallie Bernard, ARC Research, 14 Commerce Drive, Cranford, NJ 07901 USA, 908.276.6300, fax 908.276.1301


Autism is a syndrome characterized by impairments in social relatedness and communication, repetitive behaviors, abnormal movements, and sensory dysfunction. Recent epidemiological studies suggest that autism may affect 1 in 150 U. S. children.

Exposure to mercury can cause immune, sensory, neurological, motor, and behavioral dysfunctions similar to traits defining or associated with autism, and the similarities extend to neuroanatomy, neurotransmitters, and biochemistry.

Thimerosal, a preservative added to many vaccines, has become a major source of mercury in children who, within their first two years, may have received a quantity of mercury that exceeds safety guidelines.

A review of medical literature and U.S. government data suggests that

i) many cases of idiopathic autism are induced by early mercury exposure from thimerosal;

(ii) this type of autism represents an unrecognized mercurial syndrome; and

(iii) genetic and non-genetic factors establish a predisposition whereby thimerosal's adverse effects occur only in some children.

For balance of article, please go to:


Flu Shots

Better Health Update #61 - Monte Kline, Ph.D.

Every Fall a familiar drum beat fills the media - "Get your flu shots!" But are flu shots a good idea or just another health risk? Do they work, or do they just set you up for other healthy problems? Let's take a look at the efficacy and safety questions.


Flu, of course, is short for influenza, a highly contagious respiratory disease caused by a virus (I emphasize "virus" because millions of people are given antibiotics for flu, although antibiotics have no effect on viruses). Typical symptoms may be like a cold, only more severe, including fever, headaches, body aches, sore throat, sneezing, cough, and overall weakness.


Flu is not a "set" disease-it's not a matter of just one particular virus that causes it. Many constantly mutating viruses cause flu-different ones every year. Since it takes up to two years to get flu vaccine ready, it's strictly a guessing game as to which flu viruses will be the main problem in a given season. The odds are probably better in Las Vegas! For this reason alone, flu shots cannot be very effective.


Many studies cast considerable doubt on the efficacy of flu shots. For example, a Dutch article about a home for the elderly noted that in spite of 2/3 of the residents getting flu shots, 49% developed severe flu and 10% of them died. Among those who were vaccinated 50% got the flu, versus 48% on the non-vaccinated. There was essentially no difference in flu incidence in the vaccinated or unvaccinated population!

At a similar situation for the elderly a significantly lower rate of morbidity (37%) and death (3%) was noted. The only difference was that these people did not receive flu shots! A French study of people age 60-69 found 14% of those vaccinated got flu versus 13% who did not get vaccinated.

A conference was held in Naples May 31-June 1, 1997 on "Should Vaccinations be Compulsory or Free Choice?" A Japanese pediatrician presented a paper entitled, "Why the Japanese Government Had to Cease Compulsory Vaccinations." Mass flu shots for school children started in Japan in 1960. Since the 1980's the rate of vaccination remained constant at about 60%. But the incidence rate of flu increased 12-fold! Since 1989 flu vaccination dropped to about 20% of the school children, but the incidence of flu did not increase.

Sometimes M.D.'s might argue that even if you get the flu, though vaccinated, it will be less severe. There's really no evidence of that, since it cannot be proven either way. Who can say that the flu you got was less severe than it might have been when you can't go back in Marty McFly's time machine and try it all over again without getting flu shots?

Though the lack of demonstrated efficacy of flu shots is enough reason for many people to refuse vaccination, adverse reactions are a much more serious concern. The likely conclusion that flu shots don't help is one thing - that they may do serious harm to your health is another.


Before getting into specific problems, understand that the overall problem with flu shots, or any other vaccination, is that you're introducing a toxin into the body. The theory is that will whip your immune system into action to produce the appropriate antibodies and generate an acquired immunity. But if your body in general and your immune system in particular are weak, it may overwhelm your bodies ability to fight and set you up for health problems. This very thing happens often. Possibilities include:

1. Allergic Reactions - Flu vaccine is made from chicken embryos. People who are allergic to chicken or eggs can become seriously ill from having a flu shot (I wonder if any health practitioner ever asked you about chicken or egg allergy before giving you a flu shot?). On the other hand, injection of these proteins into your body may produce an allergic sensitivity to chicken or eggs.

2. Leukemia Connection - All viral vaccines have an undesired bonus - they contain traces of leukemia virus and other cancer causing viruses (chickens are highly susceptible to a form of cancer called leukosis). Vaccine manufacturers claim that they are 98% purified, but I don't know if I'm that comfortable with the 2% that got through!

3. Mercury Content - Mercury is the second most toxic element on the periodic table. Though we usually think of mercury problems as related to mercury amalgam dental fillings, mercury is found in many other products, including vaccines. Thimerosal is a mercury compound that has been used in contact lens solutions and many consumer products. It was definitely in all three of the flu vaccines marketing for the 2000-2001 season, and I'm assuming it's still in use. The two groups most vulnerable to methyl mercury are pregnant women and their unborn babies.

4. Warning for Pregnant Women - Flu shots are routinely recommended for pregnant women based on the statement by the CDC that one to two hospitalizations per 1000 pregnant women could be avoided if they all were immunized. Interface that suggestion with this statement by the vaccine manufacturers on their package inserts:

Animal reproduction studies have not been conducted with influenza virus vaccine. It is also not known whether influenza virus vaccine can cause fetal harm when administered to a pregnant woman . . . The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices states that, if used during pregnancy, administration of influenza virus after 14 weeks of gestation may be preferable to avoid coincidental association of the vaccine with early pregnancy loss . . .

5. Alzheimer's - According to Hugh Fudenberg, M.D., the world's leading immunogeneticist with nearly 850 papers published in peer review journals, if you had five consecutive flu shots between 1970 and 1980 (the years in his study), your chances of getting Alzheimer's Disease were 10 times higher than if you had one, two, or no flu shots. According to Dr. Fudenberg, speaking at the NVIC International Vaccine Conference in Arlington, Virginia in September 1997, this correlation is due to the mercury and aluminum that is in every flu shot, the gradual build-up of which in the brain causes cognitive dysfunction.

6. Fluoride - Fluoride compounds, typically associated with aluminum, are frequently found in all types of vaccines. Fluoride can significantly impact neurological and cognitive function, as well as contribute to many other health problems.

7. Respiratory Infections - Cases are documented of people developing bronchitis and bronchopneumonia after flu shots. In one case a 41 year old man developed pneumonia 14 days after vaccination and died two weeks later.

8. Gastro-Intestinal Disturbances - Vomiting, nausea, and bowel incontinence have been noted.

9. Urinary Problems - Difficulties with urination and paralysis of the bladder were experienced by a man 13 days after having flu shots.

10. Mental-Emotional Symptoms - Flu shots have been noted to cause difficulty thinking, loss of initiative, confusion, sadness, and even hallucinations.

11. Neurological Disease - Paralysis, polyneuritis, meningitis, encephalitis, MS, headache, disorientation, loss of speech, unconsciousness, and Guillain-Barre Syndrome (see section below) are reported reactions.

12. Other Flu Shot Reactions - Impotence, vertigo, various eye problems, circulatory problems and even anaphylactic shock have been noted after flu shots. More general symptoms of fever and fatigue are common.


The serious disease most often associated with flu shots is Guillain-Barre (ghee-yan ban-ray) Syndrome. GBS is an autoimmune disease of the peripheral nervous system. The first symptoms involve weakness or tingling sensations in the legs that may spread to the upper body. These neurological symptoms may increase until the victim is almost paralyzed. This constitutes a medical emergency in which an artificial respirator and a heart monitor may be necessary.

The relationship between flu shots and GBS was first noted in New Jersey after a 1976 mass vaccination. In eleven other states an approximately 10 times greater incidence of GBS was noted in the flu vaccinated versus non-vaccinated population. That 1976 vaccination resulted in 565 cases of GBS and 30 deaths. Dr. John Seal of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease says:

We have to go on the basis that any and all flu vaccines are capable of causing Guillain-Barre.


The real answer to flu is not flu shots but building up your immune system. That makes more sense that injecting a bunch of dead viruses (toxins) into your body at the time of the year when your immune system is already compromised. Why do people get colds and flu mostly in the winter? We tend to exercise less, eat more, and spend most of our time in crowded buildings heated by recirculating ventilation systems that are full of mold, bacteria and viruses. It boggles the mind to think how many health problems would be remedied by just getting more fresh air! Other suggestions for prevention or treatment of flu include:

1. Get off junk food - Avoiding refined sugar is especially important. Bacteria, fungi, and viruses love it!

2. Drink lots of distilled water - pure water for detoxification is essential to disease prevention.

3. Buffered Vitamin C - For prevention purposes I would take 2000-3000 mg/day of buffered, ascorbate-type C, spread throughout the day. If you already have a cold or flu, I would suggest two to three times that amount.

4. Zinc - Zinc lozenges can be particularly helpful for throat infections. Zinc in general is known to fight infection and build the immune system.

5. Garlic Supplements - Either as a preventive or for treatment garlic helps for all types of infection and immune stimulation.

6. Olive Leaf Extract - This herb also is very effective for virtually any type of infection. I have come to use it regularly.

7. Echinacea - Echinacea has gotten a lot of publicity for its effect on immune stimulation. If you use it for prevention purposes, skip taking it one week per month. Otherwise it loses effectiveness.

8. MSM - Methylsulfonylmethane is a powerful antioxidant that has many uses, including immune stimulation.

9. Homeopathic Remedies - Various homeopathic nosodes (dilutions of disease organisms) have been developed for preventing or treating flu. The homeopathic dilution of influenza safely stimulates the immune system to fight the disease without the harmful side-effects that may be associated with flu shots. Incidentally, if you do choose to get flu shots, I would at least counter their negative effectives by before and after usage of a homeopathic flu remedy with lots of buffered vitamin C.

The late pediatrician, Robert Mendelsohn, M.D., a frequent vaccination critic, perhaps summarized things best with a November 5, 1986 quote from Dr. William Proschauer in the Scripps-Howard News Service. He said that healthy people under age 65 should not take flu shots because, "the risk of suffering serious complications from the vaccine is far greater that that of having serious effects from the flu."

The decision to take or not take flu shots is a highly personal decision. Hopefully this information on the hazards and the alternatives allows you to make a truly informed choice.

DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this publication is for educational purposes only. It is not intended to diagnose illness nor prescribe treatment. Rather, this material is designed to be used in cooperation with your nutritionally-oriented health professional to deal with your personal health problems. Should you use this information on your own, you are prescribing for yourself, which is your constitutional right, but neither the author nor publisher assume responsibility.


Vaccines have been proven to cause insulin dependent diabetes and many are seeking compensation from the US government for this vaccine induced injury.

        There is growing evidence that immunization cause a large number of other chronic diseases including autoimmune diseases, allergies, asthma, cancers, and  Gulf War Syndrome. Data linking these diseases to vaccines includes human and animal data. In some cases the increased risk of developing these diseases following immunization exceeds the risk of the infectious complications prevented by immunization. Furthermore there is data that these complications are unnecessary and vaccines can be given in ways that actually prevent the development of these diseases.  

For more information on vaccine safety and your rights contact The National Vaccine Information Center

Key Data Slides

I. Immunization starting after 2 months of life is associated with an increased risk of diabetes

1.Pertussis vaccine-Animal data 

2.Hemophilus vaccine -Human data

3.Hepatitis B vaccine-Human data

4.Tuberculosis (BCG vaccine)-Human data

II. Immunization starting at birth associated with a decreased risk of diabetes

1.Mouse data

2.Rat data

3.BCG vaccine in humans

4. Smallpox vaccine in humans

III. Risks of Immunization

IV. Asthma

Information obtained on this website is intended solely for the dissemination of scientific information and is not intended for use as medical advice.

Link to data proving vaccines cause diabetes:




Vaccine Disease
Citations  Vaccine Disease Racket

Autoimmune diseases
Blood disorders
Bowel disease
Nervous system
Skin disorders

Appetite, anorexia
Aplastic anemia
Bell's Palsy

Birth defects
Brain Swelling
Brain damage (severe)
Blood Reactions
Bullous pemphigoid
BSE risk

Cardiac complications
Cerebral Palsy

Coeliac Disease
CIC (Klinkers)
CJD risk

Chronic inflammatory
Demylenating Polyneuropathy (CIDP).

Crohn's Disease
Development disability

Down's syndrome

Erythema multiforme
Eye damage
Fanconi's anemia

Foetal damage
Foot and mouth disease
Gait disturbances
Graves' disease
Guillain-Barre syndrome
Gulf War Syndrome
Hair loss
Heller's syndrome
Hemolytic anemia
Henoch-Schoenlein Purpura
Hepatitis B
Hyperkinetic syndrome
Inflammatory bowel disease

Immune Suppression
Kidney disorders

Leukemia & lymphoma
Lennox-gastaut syndrome

Lichen planus
Liver disorders
Lyell's syndrome
Lyme disease


Optic Neuritis
Otitis Media



Serum Sickness
Shaken Baby Syndrome
Skin disorders
Spanish Flu
Stevens-Johnson syndrome
Thrombocytopenia purpura
Tourette's Syndrome
Transverse myelitis


Violent Behaviour
Feline sarcomas




Here are some helpful links with regard to immunizations, exemption letters and more.

How To Legally Avoid Unwanted Immunizations Of All Kinds

Why You May Not Want to Vaccinate - Making An Informed Choice

Vaccine Exemption Forms Online - by State or Country

State Immunization Laws and Exemptions

Hints for Religious Exemptions to Immunization; Vaccine Tracking;Vaccine Mandates; Mercury/Thimerosal;Emergency Powers; Homeland Security;Medical Privacy/HIPAA; Conflicts of Interest and more

How to Write a Letter for a "Personal" Religious Exemption from Immunizations

ALABAMA - IMMUNIZATION EXEMPTIONS by State (includes current statutes, letters & forms)

Indiana - State FAQs on immunization

Helpful information for the state of Pennsylvania.

2004-2005 Texas Vaccine Exemption Information

Refusal to Vaccinate

Links, Articles, Etc.
Anthrax Vaccine Info:
Gary Null's Action File
Global Vaccine Awareness League
Immunization Action Coalition
KidsHealth for Parents
National Vaccine Information Center
Parents Requesting Open Vaccine Education (PROVE)
Pet  Vaccination Information Link  (Yes, vaccinations affect our pets as they do our children)
Sabin Vaccine Institute - Vaccine Experts and Parents Available for Vaccine Interviews
SAFEMINDS (Sensible Action for Ending Mercury-Induced Neurological Disorders)
Shirley's Wellness Cafe
Site dedicated to vaccination news/information and related topics.
Think Twice Global Vaccine Institute

Understanding Vaccine Safety: Immunization Remains Our Best Defense Against Deadly Disease

Vaccine Debate
Vaccine Ingredients and Contact Info
Vaccine Safety - FAQ's, Facts and Figures and more
Vaccines (Whaleto)
Why You May Not Want to Vaccinate-Making An Informed Choice
World Health Organization -  Vaccine safety websites meeting essential and important good information practices criteria